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frater sinister
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ven. oct. 02, 2009 10:38 am

Finally I received some informations about the crossbow I bought.
Here you can see some pictures. Unfortunatelly, it is in italian language.
This replica come from an original in "Castel Tirolo" in the province of Bolzano (Italy, of course).

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs50/i/2009/ ... NISTER.jpg
http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs51/i/2009/ ... NISTER.jpg
http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs50/i/2009/ ... NISTER.jpg
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs50/i/2009/ ... NISTER.jpg
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"DIEU VULT! DIO lo Vuole!"

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dim. oct. 04, 2009 10:49 am

Merci de ces infos supplémentaires Frater Sinister !!

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mar. févr. 23, 2010 4:06 am

il mio balestriere aggiornato basato sulla seguente fonte iconografica della bibbia Maciejowski:
mon balestriere ajourné basé sur la source iconografica suivant de la bible Maciejowski:
my updated crossbowman based on the following source of the Maciejowski's bible:

http://www.charlesfleming-sca.com/image ... mbeson.gif

Ho incluso il nuovo cappello d'arme e Zuppa Armandi (decisamente più corposa e rigida). Inoltre gli abiti sono del tutto differenti.
J'ai inclus le nouveau chapeau d'arme et Soupe Armandi, résolument plus corposa et rigide. Les habits sont du tout différent en outre.
I have included the new kettle hat Gambeson (more full-bodied and rigid). Besides the suit is different.

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Il camaglio verrà modificato, accorciato e reso integrale, con solo l'apertura per gli occhi. Il cappello d'armi verrà dipinto di rosso e bianco.
Le camail sera modifié, raccourci et rendu intégral, avec seulement l'ouverture pour les yeux. Le chapeau d'armes viendra peinture de rouge et blanc.
The camail will be modified, shortened and made integral, with only the opening for the eyes. The kttle hat will be painted of red and white.
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dim. juil. 25, 2010 9:37 pm

Il Balestriere ha ricevuto alcuni degli aggiornamenti di cui avevo accennato.
The Crossbowman has received some of the updatings of which I had mentioned.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7786/sta71566.jpg

Ho dipinto l'elmo e incluso un camaglio integrale.
Le modifiche al camaglio (che avevo commissionato) tuttavia non mi soddisfano del tutto, i lati sono infatti stati privati di un numero eccessivo di anelli, rendendolo inadeguato, dovrò provvedere, forse personalmente.
I have painted the helmet and included an integral camail.
The changes to the camail (that I commissioned) don't satisfy entirely me, the sides have been in fact deprived of an excessive number of rings, making it inadequate, I must provide, perhaps personally.

Alla zuppa armandi sono state aggiunte alcune cuciture a mano (sebbene non si noti molta differenza a una certa distanza) con filo di canapa, esse sono presenti solo nella parte frontale e il colletto (non visibile), successivamente verranno incluse anche nelle braccia e nel retro.
To the gambeson I have included some hand seams (although a lot of difference is not noticed to a certain distance), they are present only in the frontal part and the collar (not visible), subsequently it will also be included in the arms and in the back.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3082/sta71564.jpg
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lun. juil. 26, 2010 9:04 am

non ho mai visto questo camglio integrale. Avete una prova di questo ?

Altrimenti, e un buon lavoro...
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lun. juil. 26, 2010 12:59 pm

La base del camaglio dovrebbe risultare come tale fonte iconografica (dopo le modifiche):
The base of the camail should result as such source (after the changes):

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area tedesca circa 1270
German area around 1270

Il camaglio integrale è basato sulle ricerche e fonti iconografiche presenti nel seguente articolo del "Le collectif 1186-583":
The integral camail is based on the searches and sources present in the following article from the "Le collectif 1186-583":
http://www.1186-583.org/article.php3?id_article=30
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mar. juil. 27, 2010 7:43 am

ok :)
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mar. sept. 21, 2010 9:53 am

Here a picture of me like a simple infantryman:

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mar. juil. 12, 2011 9:15 am

I like your 2 projects. Did you have the historical pictures or something that shows your quiver ? I'm very interested and curious of that.
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mar. juil. 12, 2011 9:29 am

Thanks.
Here you can find all the sources I found and received in the forum "Villaggio Medievale". The language is italian, however there are many pictures about medieval sources I used for my crossbowman/infantryman:

http://www.villaggiomedievale.com/forum ... hichpage=1
a topic about the evolutions of my crossbowman. I begin it about two years ago.

a topic about the falchion with sheath:
http://www.villaggiomedievale.com/forum ... IC_ID=1924

a topic about the buckler:
http://www.villaggiomedievale.com/forum ... brocchiere

an interesting picture I show here (but it is available in the first topic too). An italian kettle hat of XIII century (Maciejowski style):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/signoredip ... hotostream

Pictures of my kettle hat:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1179/19319894.jpg
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4918/31391470.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7982/61587667.jpg

I'm not sure if paint it or not. What do you think?
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dim. juil. 17, 2011 1:42 pm

Bellissima (la ballestra)
The trigger/lock system is quite simple and easy to make/repair, almot nothing can go wrong with it.
I see that you don't use a hook to draw the string, you do it with just your hands ?
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mar. juil. 19, 2011 6:20 pm

sergentdarmes a écrit :Bellissima (la ballestra)
The trigger/lock system is quite simple and easy to make/repair, almot nothing can go wrong with it.
I see that you don't use a hook to draw the string, you do it with just your hands ?
Thanks.
Yes, for this type of crossbow I can use just my hands to draw the string.
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mer. juil. 20, 2011 1:37 pm

Hello Frater Sinister.

I like your arrow bag. But can you give us your historical pictures or historical roots for that ?

Thank you very much.

Edit: doublon avec bouchard. Même si mon anglais est vraiment moins bon...
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mer. juil. 20, 2011 3:57 pm

Unfortunately I do not have a source about an arrow bag of the XIII century. The guy that created my bag said that there are still some doubts unresolved, due to lack of sources, so he used some XV century sources.
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